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and they are supposed to be presenting information that's important for the president to be able to do his job. this is beyond investigations. just do the job. >> josh earnest, final thoughts. >> the final thought here is the context is important. in the 2016 election, the vast majority of the leaks from the department of justice and the fbi were actually intended to hurt secretary clinton, even though we now know, we didn't even know at the time there was an ongoing investigation of donald trump. it continues to be beyond my imagination how anybody can credibly claim that somehow the fbi or department of justice was biased against donald trump. there's no evidence for it. >> just to wrap it up, we're over and i apologize, but really quickly, it's important to remember that the fbi released a letter ten days before the election that did more than anything else to help elect donald trump, to keep him in the game. they will even tell you that. so the fact that republicans are now investigating the
investigators is even more ludicrous. >> this was the most important segment of the entire show today. andy card, josh earnest, thank you so much. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks it up right now. >> thanks, mika, thanks, joe. good morning, i'm stephanie ruhle. you know why i am, live from washington, d.c. we begin today with president's state of the union. he described it as a nation of compassion and togetherness, accountability and respect. those are powerful words. but can trump himself even begin to live up to them? i have a great team here to help me break all of it down. and i want to go first to talk a bit -- well, i want to share a scaled-down version of last night's address. take a look. >> let's begin tonight by recognizing that the state of our union is strong, because our people are strong. we have created 2.4 million new jobs. the stock market has smashed one record after another.
we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in american history. and millions of americans will have more take-home pay starting next month. a lot more. for many years companies and jobs were only leaving us. but now they are roaring back. they're coming back. they want to be where the action is. we will work to fix bad trade deals, to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. let's invest in workforce development. let's open great vocational schools. and let's support working families. american are dreamers too. my administration has met extensively with both democrats and republicans to craft a bipartisan approach to immigration reform. get the job done. we face rogue regimes, terrorist
groups, and rivals like china and russia. unmatched power is the surest means to our true and great defense. we're also restoring clarity about our adversaries. iran, cuba, and venezuela. the cruel dictatorship in north korea. we're a people whose heroes live not only in the past but all around us. our task is to respect them, to listen to them, to serve them, to protect them. and to always be worthy of them. thank you, and god bless america. good night. >> get the job done, those are the president's words. now i turn to the white house where nbc's kristen welker was
there. kristen, the president had a lot to say. how will the administration build on that? when he says get the job done, i look at the speech and say, that was a laundry list of things, why don't you do it, mr. president? >> reporter: that's right, and the key to a lot of those sound bites that you played, steph, was the president calling on republicans and democrats to work together, really trying to strike a note of bipartisanship. the question is how is that actually going to happen. let's break down what we're expecting. first, a big break with tradition. president trump, unlike a number of his predecessors, is not hitting the road today to sell his state of the union message. instead he's staying here in washington. he's going to be holding a meeting with americans to talk about his tax reform legislation that he recently passed. but it's his agenda that he laid out last night that he wants to really see enacted. so that means infrastructure reform, that $1.5 trillion plan, as well as the thorniest issue,
steph, immigration reform. last night he made his case for why he thinks his plan is the right one. it would give a pathway to citizenship for dreamers. it would also require more funding for his border wall and border security, despite his noted bipartisanship last night, steph, there's no indication that democrats and republicans are any closer to actually reaching a deal when it comes to immigration reform. and of course they're up against some very tough deadlines. the first one being in march. but next week, the government runs out of money. so lawmakers and the president have to deal with that first. the thinking is president trump is going to stay here in washington. he's going to try to work with lawmakers, reach across the aisle to try to get these deals done. he is planning to send some of his top officials out on the road to sell that message that we heard last night, steph. >> all right, kristen. you need to rest up. so i'll bring my panel had. steve schmidt, republican
strategist and msnbc contributor, amy stoddard, host of no labels radio, and brendan greeley, author and editor of all we know so far, a brand-new economics newsletter. steve schmidt, to you first. when i think about president trump's speech last year, he was railing on the stay of the economy and the country. he talked about 94 -- he talked about the 43 million people on food stamps, the millions of people who are no longer participating in the labor workforce. he talked about the trade deficit. all of those things are as bad if not worse this year. but he got up there and told a different story. so for you, how do you categorize the speech? >> steph, i thought the speech was long, it was boring, it was riddled with errors. and it was completely disassociated from reality. as if nothing that happened in the last year that happened, that a president who walked into the chamber with the lowest approval levels of any president
this early in his history, to a chamber where a congress sits that has amongst the lowest approval levels in the history of the united states congress. he walks into this chamber last night having divided the country over the course of the last year, responsible for chaos in the governance of the country, and talks about unity. it was like smoke from a fire drifting upwards that dissipates into the atmosphere. there's nothing left in it on reflection. i don't think it will be particularly long-remembered. and i think that within the next 48, 72 hours, he'll certainly do something that materially undermines every part of the speech. on policy to the parts of the speech that were about his public temperament and working together with the other side. >> okay. even if he doesn't, listen, we're all saying, wait, wait, the real trump is going to come
out, let's wait for the tweet. even if the tweet doesn't come, the president spoke about unity. and we do have the opportunity now to call him to that task. i want to share some of his words. >> i call upon all of us to set aside our differences, to seek out common ground, and to summon the unity we need to deliver for the people. this is really the key. these are the people we were elected to serve. >> amy, i agree wholeheartedly with the president's words. but that's not who he is. he's the least gracious person in that person. if he added some graciousness, you know, when he talks about african-american unemployment rate, he's right, it is at its lowest. but it's due in part to president obama. would it not help president trump's messaging if he gave a hat tip to the last administration and then said, but i'm doing x, y, and z to
further it? instead he's wildly divisive but then says a few words about unity. that's meaningless. >> president trump is not going to hat tip the obama administration. he uses president obama and hillary clinton as foils. he did it in the campaign and he's going to continue to do so. >> he's not campaigning against them anymore. >> i understand that. i do think, although the sentences about reaching across the aisle were not plentiful, he actually just reached out in a way last night that he doesn't usually, to people who don't support him, with optimistic, unifying, soaring, compelling, uplifting language that he normally doesn't use. so he took a night off from being divisive. in that way, if you look at the snap polls, more people supported the speech than approve of him across the board in general. that's a good first step. obviously on the subject of immigration, he said let's work together and then he talked
about the dangers of violent crime from illegal immigrants before he talked about consensus. and that you could see in the crowd was a put-off to democrats. that's the big challenge in the weeks ahead. this is his most pressing policy deadline, sort of urgent matter. if he can't stay at the table with democrats, and there are democrats who want to work with him, there's a bipartisan proposal on the table, he can't keep people at the table, he's not going to get to infrastructure. he does have to walk the walk of this speech. >> i want to share a little bit of what he said about immigration, because the president is a great salesman. you cannot deny that. gary cohn said he's the best at selling the economy. consumer confidence did spike 16 points in the last year. but now your call to action and what you actually do matters. so for him to give these great words about immigration -- let's just actually share them for a minute. >> under the current broken system, a single immigrant can
bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. >> so the unforced errors right there, that's not true. you can't bring unlimited family members. how do republicans and democrats alike listen to the president, and unforced error, saying things that aren't true, and walk away thinking, yeah, we can get a deal done here? >> but when has that mattered over the last year? >> let's make it matter. >> sure, but as a policy journalist, for the last two years we've said, i'm sorry, that's not true at all, but it hasn't mattered, it hasn't changed his fundamental narrative. one of the interesting things about this speech, when he talks about where we are economically, a lot of it is true, but a lot of it is true because we're at a
particular moment in the business cycle. confidence goes up, confidence goes down. that's the way of the world, that's how the american economy works. so we do see wages start to rise, we see black unemployment narrow with white unemployment. he's talked about about the stock market, business confidence, consumer confidence. these things are related to what he does. underneath the business cycle there are a lot of fundamental structural issues that he hasn't changed. >> those structural issues are some of the reasons he got elected. income inequality helped president trump get elected. he talked all about serving the forgotten american. you know who forgets the forgotten american? the stock market. the things that he touts don't serve the people who voted for him. >> let's talk about trade. he did bring it up. this was his signature issue. he figured it out on the campaign trail, that people were frustrated about trade. here is the problem.
>> he's taking us in the opposite direction. >> he walked out of tpp, the trade pact between 12 pacific rim nations. he said we'll renegotiate it, it will be better. he's had a year. >> china, japan, canada. >> the other 11 countries renegotiated without us. now if we ever want back in, the terms are worse for us. and what we have heard from japan is, we would love to have you guys back in, we have no idea what your strategy is, what your asks are , where you are on this. >> steve schmidt, the president talked a lot about spending, investments in job training, workforce training, vocational schools, on top of infrastructure. these are beautiful ideas. are republicans going to get on board with that? where on earth is the money going to come from? >> no, steph. it's just words coming out and floating up into the air. there's no rigor to the policy. there is no substantive plan behind it.
the country is $22 trillion in debt. another trillion and a half dollars in debt added by the tax cut. there's not the money for this. and there's certainly no appetite in a republican congress to put price controls over prescription drugs, to spend a trillion and a half dollars on infrastructure or to make the type of investments in workforce training that he described last night. there's just no political will on the majority side to do any of those things. >> but to brendan's point, we are at a good place in the business cycle, and there are wins. why do you believe this guy is the king of the enforced error? i want to read frank luntz's tweet that he put out earlier that shocked me. he wrote, this speech represents the presidential performance that trump observers have been waiting for, a brilliant mix of numbers and stories, humility and aggressiveness, traditional conservatism and political populism. why does he need to lie, then, when he talks about the 6
billion that's been added to the stock market, why does he have to say it's 8 billion? why does the president tell us lies when he doesn't need to, when the country wants unity, when there are a lot of people who do want reform? >> look, i'm not a psychiatrist. i can't answer the question. >> but you're a strategist. he's surrounded by strategists. >> what we do now is from the first hours of this administration and throughout the campaign, there's a never been a person who lies more frequently to the american people from behind the seal of the president of the united states. and it goes for many, many senior members of his administration. what's true is that that speech was riddled with factual errors from the beginning to the end. they're unnecessary but have become normalized in this trump era, where objective truth is now now being debated in this country. it's important because without truth, there can't be
accountability. and without accountability, you can't have a functioning democratic republican. >> you can sell a lot of used cars but if those used cars stink, people will come back to your lot and complain. he made no mention of russia. was that a missed opportunity? we know it's a hot button issue for him, but to simply avoid it? >> it's no surprise. it is a missed opportunity, of course, the conclusion of the intelligence community, all the national security officials who work in his administration, is that they did. and director -- cia director pompeo reconfirmed this week he absolutely believed they will meddle in the midterm elections this year. what have they done to mitigate this? absolutely nothing. but republicans are relieved this morning that he did not bellow about a witch hunt from the podium last night. >> russian interference and a cyberattack is a huge issue that
if people aren't concerned about because it's not right in front of them, they should be. the election in the czech republican, the upcoming election in mexico. are these not issues that the president should even mention? or do you think it's too in the weeds? >> i don't think it's too in the weeds. but i can't imagine a universe in which the president would consciously decide to mention it. i thought this was a small "c" conservative speech, don't screw anything up. frame at it best you can, don't say anything dangerous. >> was this davos junior? >> it was davos junior. we know in the business cycle, things go up, things go down, it's the way of the world. he cannot control when they go down. every president is tempted to look at numbers and say, you're welcome, america, this is what i did to you. the problem is we don't know when the business cycle is going to turn, maybe about the midterms, maybe after the midterms. at some point in the next four years. and he's going to be stuck to it
because he's manacled himself to that. >> the president threw a ton of words at lawmakers, everything from infrastructure to the iran nuclear deal. but that all pales in comparison to government funding. don't forget, that thing runs out in eight days. nbc's garrett haake is in west virginia where the republican congressional retreat is taking place. garrett, after last night's speech, with the shutdown coming, or with the funding ending, what are they going to prioritize? >> reporter: well, republicans are on their way here to west virginia to try to figure some of this stuff out. as you said, the president dumped a bunch of homework in their lap, giving them a laundry list of things they have to get done in an election year. that's what's worth bearing in mind as we take a look at this list. there are some must-do items on it, funding the military, dealing with these budget issues you talked about. next up is probably immigration because there is that looming march 5th deadline, assuming the ruling by a federal judge
doesn't kick that further down the road here. but immigration is not one of the listed topics, it's not a breakout session, it's not a specific main focus of this retreat. in fact a lot of what's happening on this retreat is talking about the tax reform package that already passed, and talking about how these republicans can get reelected in 2018. there is going to be discussion about infrastructure specifically. a really big ticket item like a $1.5 trillion infrastructure bill is a very difficult thing to get done in good times and a very challenging thing to get done in an election year with both chambers very narrowly divided. again, this is more like a wish list from the president than a list of things that this congress is liable to actually be able tick through in the months between now and november, stephanie. >> we wish them luck, they are our elected officials. we'll leave it there, garrett. up next, one thing president trump didn't mention last night, i just mentioned it to a.b., is
the russia investigation. are hillary clinton and anthony weiner the reasons why the fbi's number two, andrew mccabe, stepped down unexpectedly? throughout the hour we'll be fact checking president trump's first state of the union chief. politifact executive director joins me, our first topic, small business. listen to what the president said. >> small business confidence is at an all-time high. >> all right. what's the truth? >> well, the parking lot gets this one right, stephanie. we'll get into some mistakes later on. this is from the national federation of independent businesses, it's the highest since 2004. one caveat, the number in december dipped compared to november. he left it out. but he gets a true here. we'll have more to say about later fact checks in the show. >> he gets it true and it is true, he's one heck of a salesman. we'll have much more fact checking coming up on msnbc. stay with us. we have a lot to cover today. s . sup!
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welcome back, i'm stephanie ruhle. we're learning brand-new details about deputy director andrew mccabe of the fbi's decision to step down from the organization. the bureau director, chris wray, made it clear in the message to all employees that mccabe's early exit was a result of information from an inspector general's report, a report that focuses on the fbi's handling of the 2016 investigation into hillary clinton's use of a
private e-mail server. national security reporter from "the washington post" is my next guest. devlin, you have specifics on what the inspector general is looking for. what can you tell us? >> he's asking questions about a particular time period in october of 2016, just before the presidential election, when the fbi basically has learned that they have a laptop belonging to anthony weiner and that there are e-mails on that laptop related to the hillary clinton e-mail investigation that have been closed the previous summer. >> then walk us through the house gop memo that's alleging fbi abuses related to the author of the trump dossier, because you have new reporting on that, how rod rosenstein and chris wray are making this last ditch effort to halt the release of that memo. >> yeah, within the justice department and the fbi it's viewed as pretty much a losing
battle, but they're still trying to take every opportunity they can to convince the president not to go ahead with this. but they're trying to convince the president not to release this memo that is very critical of the fbi and these officials argue would compromise classified information. they think that's a dangerous thing to do and they think it could set a dangerous precedent. >> that's going to be difficult to do, because we should listen to the quick moment after the president's state of the union speech, look at this. >> to release the memo? >> don't worry, 100%. >> okay. 100%. he says to a lawmaker on the sidelines, but just hours before that, white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders said there are no current plans to release the house intelligence committee's memo, the president has not seen or been briefed on the memo or reviewed its contents. so sarah huckabee sanders says no way jose. three hours later, the president says, you betcha, 100%.
>> yeah, i mean, i think there's been a lot of polite dancing around this topic, but i think the writing is on the wall and all the main players know it's going to happen. everyone expects the white house, the president, to either forcefully support the release of the memo or just do nothing and let the committee release the memo in a number of days. that seems to be what everyone is assuming right now. i think it's a good assumption, obviously based on the 100% comment as well. i think a lot of this is sort of positioning and posturing without any real impact on the outcome. >> positioning and posturing. here's what we know. robert mueller went to work yesterday. he's going to work today. and i'm pretty sure he's going to be there tomorrow. devlin, thanks, great reporting. we're going to leave it there. up next, the stock market is set to open after two of the worst days in more than five months. but remember, the market's been on a tear. will wall street be lifted by president trump's soaring state of the union address or concerned with the potential shutdown just days away?
remember, the market has become desensitized to the president's words because oftentimes his own administration talks them back. but first, fact checking the state of the union speech. we'll stay on it. politifact's executive editor is still with me. the topic, energy exports. >> we are now very proudly an exporter of energy to the world. >> are we? >> well, of course we are. and this is quite frankly a line that shouldn't be in a vetted speech like this. as far as exporting energy, we've done that for a very long time. what trump probably meant to say is net exporter, meaning we sell off more energy than we import. but that's not true either. the only thing that is true is for the first time since 1957, we're a net exporter of natural gas, but not an overall knelt exporter. this is false, it's a bizarre, puzzling claim you would think their fact checker should have
caught. >> it has me thinking about trade deficits. the president has so angry in his speech last year, $800 billion in trade deficits. what's happened in the last year? they've only gotten bigger. much more fact checking coming up on msnbc. it's a big day to watch. stay with us. hold together. a little to the left. 1, 2, 3, push! easy! easy! easy! (horn honking) alright! alright! we've all got places to go! we've all got places to go! washington crossing the delaware turnpike? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money sean saved by switching to geico. big man with a horn. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
welcome back. let's go to my favorite place, wall street. the market just opened and the dow is up, after yesterday's dip when it went down for the second straight day, suffering its worst day since last may. i want to bring in cnbc's dom chu. we saw united health care care yesterday being the biggest drag since the amazon/berkshire hathaway/jpmorgan announcement. all they told us is they will provide health care to their employees. how is that sitting today? >> reporter: you're right, stephanie, the whole news about whether or not amazon, jw morgan chase, and berkshire hathaway can actually make any real headway in improving health care costs for right now just their employees still remains to be seen. they make an anomalous statement, it's going to be
technology-related solutions. and all of a sudden, an entire industry sells off. health care was by far the biggest drag, not just on the dow, but also on the s&p 500 overall. so as some of these health care insurers and pharmacy benefit managers and drug stocks took a big beating today, we'll see if in early trading they can recover some of those losses. the dow and s&p have a long ways to go to get back the total loss in two days. >> but the fact that this deal is still so speculative, and we don't know any details, and we see the market take such a hit, does that not illustrate how sensitive things are? robert shiller, who spent a lifetime studying asset bubbles, says american shares are the most expensive in the world relative to underlying corporate earnings. so when we saw the market move yesterday, doesn't that take you to robert shiller, and say, uh-oh, maybe things aren't as good as we think they are? >> reporter: when you have a nobel laureate like robert shiller saying those kinds of
things, you certainly pay attention. but we would argue right now in the markets, you've seen this kind of a steady valuation rise over the course of the past few years. certainly that valuation rise ever since the depths of the financial crisis. it hasn't seemed to derail the markets at all in any way, shape, or form. stephanie, you and i both know, it's been a long time since we've seen any kind of a real, real pullback in the stock markets overall. the real concern for a lot of traders out there right now is whether or not there is any fuel to keep this going. we are still neck deep in earnings season right now. this week, one out of every five companies in the s&p 500 is going to be reporting their results. right now things still look good. if things go as expected, we'll see mid- to high digit sales growth. the economy is growing, albeit not at a huge clip. but it's still growing. all of those things maybe could be viewed as constructive for the overall markets. that's the reason why you're seeing it. but to your point about the sensitivity of the marketplace,
remember, this is the sensitivity on the health care side of things to the amazon effect. and that's one of the real big headlines coming out of this particular move the last couple of days. >> the amazon effect. no company wants amazon in their backyard. all right, thanks, dom. up next, last night trump touted many businesses bringing jobs back to america. we've heard this story before. you remember carrier, a former union leader from the indi understand -- indianapolis plant. first, aaron sharockman is still with me. next topic, permits. >> we built the empire state building in just one year. isn't it a disgrace that it can now take ten years just to get a minor permit approved for the building of a simple road? >> what's the truth? >> in the end we gave donald trump a half true here. he's kind of right on the empire
state building. it took a year and 45 days to build. but he's comparing building to permitting, which doesn't make sense. and on permitting, the average for the permitting of a road project is 4.7 years, not ten years. we're not sure what he means by a simple road and a minor permit. the white house provided no examples of roads that took -- like that that took ten years to permit. odd comparison much but also the numbers are a little off. we cut it down the mid-and tdle said half true on this one. much more coming up on msnbc. we're breaking down last night's state of the union address. do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? do you want $4.95 commissions for stocks, $0.50 options contracts? $1.50 futures contracts? what about a dedicated service team of trading specialists? did you say yes? good, then it's time for power e*trade. the platform, price and service that gives you the edge you need.
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they're coming back. they want to be where the action is. they want to be in the united states of america. that's where they want to be. >> on the jobs front, if i had a nickel every time the president said "many," i wouldn't need a job. while some companies have announced new or expanded plants under president trump, many american workers feel he has overpromised and underdelivered. just this week, speaking of roaring, motorcycle manufacturer harley-davidson announced it will close its plant in kansas city next year. 800 jobs will reportedly be cut. the ceo said leaving tpp was a factor in the decision. remember, president trump was very close to harley-davidson last year, speaking there to employees and people in the area. and earlier this month, hundreds of workers were laid off from a carrier factory in indianapolis. you remember carrier, the very same plant that trump visited last year to tout his deal to
keep the factory open and save jobs headed for mexico. >> they're not going to leave this country. and the workers are going to keep their jobs. these companies aren't going to be leaving anymore. they aren't going to be taking people's hearts out. >> i know one man who didn't believe him. since then more than 500 carrier jobs have gone to the company's plant in mexico where workers make about three bucks an hour, according to union officials. in a "washington post" editorial, the former union leader who represented these workers writes, "we feel betrayed. trump continues to lie about his commitment to saving jobs at carrier or anywhere else and workers are taking note." that man joins me now, chuck jones, former president of the local 1999. chuck, the president took aim at you specifically a year ago. you've lived through this year, you've seen what happened at carrier and other companies. what's your reaction to what the president promised last night? >> well, i think, like anything else he promised when he was
campaigning, and since then, he keeps on promising to keep jobs here in this country. and the number that had left this country due to offshoring right now is over 100,000 since he took office. so he's big on promises, he's short on results. >> so trump's supporters that are in your area, factory workers who believed his claim, what do they say now? are they still waiting? >> i think the majority of them that were trump supporters are saying now for the most part that they feel betrayed and, you know, they're sorry they voted for him. now, there's a few of them still saying, we need to give the guy more time. i wasn't -- i'm not in either group, i didn't support donald trump, and nor do i now. >> i want to play a specific claim that the president made last night. >> chrysler is moving a major plant from mexico to michigan.
toyota and mazda are opening up a plant in alabama, a big one. and we haven't seen this in a long time. >> okay. now, chrysler is shifting some truck production to the united states. but it's not moving its plant from mexico. all six plants in mexico are staying open. and toyota opened up a plant in mississippi back in 2011. so it's an exaggeration at the very least to say we haven't seen this in decades. who is the president speaking to? who believes this? >> well, you know, the working people, working class people, for the most part don't buy into his statement. he was talking last night how plentiful jobs are and how good everybody's got it. we're here in indianapolis, indiana, and we're not doing so well. i talk to people on a daily basis that's lost their jobs,
that donald trump said weren't going anywhere from carrier. they're struggling to find a job that pays a decent living. >> you already mentioned all the jobs that were lost to outsourcing. 93,000 in the last year alone. and in that year, you've traveled across the country to talk to hundreds of manufacturing workers who lost their jobs. what are they telling you? you said they're looking for jobs. the president talked about vocational training, workforce training. is any of that happening? are they being offered different opportunities? >> yeah, any time your job leaves a country, the government provides t.a. aid benefits, that's great, first of all. but a person 45, 50 years of age, too young to retire, maybe too old to be retrained that's worked in a plant for 20, 25 years, how about them? they're getting left behind.
these are people that went to work every day, and tried to do the best they could for their family and for the most part they were, due to no fault of their own, because we can't compete with the wages they pay in mexico and other countries. their livelihood has been stripped away from them. >> what do you want the president to do here? we're seeing these huge tax cuts to corporations. the president is promising to bring jobs back. those countries aren't forced to bring jobs back. if they do, they will likely be motivated by automation, that won't help the worker who has lost his or her job. what do you say to the president who has given billions of dollars in cuts to those who could be hiring? >> he's the master of executive orders, according to him. he could put an executive order in, this is the short part of it, that would basically say that if a corporation off-shored
jobs, they would be exempt from military or government contracts. do i think that could pass, you know, the house and the senate? probably not. but donald trump could do an executive order and accomplish that. but he has no desire to do it. and we haven't seen any interest that he's showed so far in his first year of trying to help the working class people out and the working poor. >> you know, it's a really good recommendation, and it certainly would suit an america first agenda, which is what the president touts. chuck, thank you so much for joining me today, i appreciate it. >> thank you very much, stephanie. coming up, the president tried to hit an optimistic tone last night but at times he portrayed a nation seemingly under siege. what is the new american moment he tried to lay out? one last fact check in from the state of the union, aaron sharockman is back with me.
what's true, what's false, rising wages? because i know they haven't matched the stock market, which is up 20%. >> after years and years of wage stagnation, we are final seeing rising wages. >> all right, aaron. we've already been seeing rising wages. so what exactly is he talking about? >> well, in the end, this claim rates mostly false, in large part for that reason, stephanie. depending on how you count, there's two measures. wages are rising in this country since 2013 or 2014, they've been going up consistently, maybe not as much as people want, but they have been moving in the right direction. donald trump had a good story to tell for the first three-quarters of 2017. wages continued to rise under his watch. but actually in the fourth quarter, he lost all of the gains that he saw that were created in 2017. when we asked the white house about this, they didn't realize that the federal reserve bank had put out 2017 data. so this claim rates mostly
false. >> that is a stunner. we should remember, when the president does talk about the stock market, the dow, the s&p, the nasdaq, while the u.s. stock market did have andata. this is mostly false. >> and when the president does talk about the stock market, while the u.s. stock market did have an extraordinary run. you'll be back. you're watching ms. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. as one of those workers, i'm proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. gillette - the best a man can get.
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the president of the united states bears a large measure of responsibility in our national life. >> something stuck out to me. after the response jonathan swan tweeted this. i love at the end of the day after all their years of crap -- it stood out you can be a white guy with a privileged background to care about equality and the
underprivileged. the fore fathers might have been white guys but it doesn't mean you can't do for others. >> i'm not sure i can agree with that. he is viewed as a rising store in that party. there is another young congressman and a combat marine veteran. it is a party that is skewing older. we'll get to know some of these young democratic stars. he is one of them. lastly, when you look at the history of people who have given these responses, there's about as good a response from someone in the opposite party responding to one of the states of the union.
>> do democrats have their message. do democrats know what their message is yet? >> no. they do not. it seems to me there's one question on the ballot. the question is do you want to put a check on president trump by putting the democrats in charge of one or both houses. the only thing that will matter blast increaseingly looking lik a nationalized. >> the president would argue that the tide is turning for the americans. i want you to listen to this. >> this in sfakt our new american moment. there has never been a better time to start living the american dream. >> what does the new american moment entail?
people want to capitalize on it. remember after he won when he snuck out of trump tower he said i'm going to cut your taxes and he did cut the taxes of the wealthy. he wasn't on t what exactly is it for? >> i do know 44% of the country doesn't have $400 in available cash for emergency. 67% have less than a thousand dollars in savings. we have more payday lenders in america than we do starbucks and 10 million people that can't access the banking system. for that percentage of the population living in places that are riddled with opioid
addiction it doesn't matter if the dow jones is $45,000 they are not participating in the economy that donald trump is describing. none of his policies have had the effect of solving what's the number one economic and political problem in the country which is stagnant wages for the middle class, which is driving tremendous political instability in the country. >> income and equality plagues this nation and the problem rages on. thank you so much always for your extraordinary incite. we'll leave it there because i always end the show with a little bit of good news. i believe there's always good news somewhere. we want to share it with you. this is a good one. nine-year-old libby has always wanted to join her dad in his daily jog. she has a partial left leg her prosthetic leg did not enable her to run.
a company teamed up to build her a custom leg just for running. i want you to look at this. she is jging outside with her dad and she wants to inspire others to believe that their own abilities. those are great americans who have helped this girl live her dream. that wraps up this hour. i'll see you again at 11:00 a.m. right now a woman with more news. we are waking up the morning after looking at what the president did and did not mention and how it will impact the whole country. one sentence coming about six minutes after he wrapped up his speech. the controversial